GCM 209 | Psychology Of The Voice


There is so much more to your voice than you think. Rodney Flowers dives into the whole psychology of the voice with Tracy Goodwin, the person behind Captivate the Room and leading expert in voice technique. Throughout her career, Tracy has helped thousands of professionals, entrepreneurs, and even celebrities transform their lives by using the power of their voice. In this conversation, she shares how you can use your voice as a tool to achieve your positive potential. She sheds light on her unique approach and shares how being vocal and letting yourself be heard can not only change your life, but touch others as well.

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The Psychology Of The Voice: How You Can Use Your Voice To Change Your Mindset With Tracy Goodwin 

I am excited about this episode. I have Tracy Goodwin with me. She has taught thousands of celebrities, professionals and entrepreneurs how to transform their lives. Also, the lives of their readers with their voice by stepping into the power of their natural voice so that they amplify their authority and captivate the room. Tracy’s unique approach, Psychology of the Voice, gets to the core of limiting voice habits and creates and transforms voices from the inside out. Welcome to the show, Tracy.

Thank you. I’m so glad to be here with you.

I am glad to be here with you as well because I want to talk about the voice. Yes, I believe that the voice is very powerful. We’re living in a time now where voices are being heard as it relates to social injustice, diversity, inclusion, race and all of these things. Everyone has a voice but not everyone is heard. We want to talk about how we as leaders and professionals can use our voice to be effective, to bring about change, lead, etc. You are an expert in the field of voice so I wanted to bring you on and let’s talk about the Psychology of the Voice. I’m so happy and delighted that you are here with me.

GCM 209 | Psychology Of The Voice

Psychology Of The Voice: The subconscious, the voice story, is calling the shots. The psychology of the voice is what is happening in our mind that is causing the bad voice habit that’s not ultimately serving us.


It’s always been a great time but it’s an especially great time to be heard. Every voice matters. Every voice needs to be heard.

What is the psychology all around the voice? You have a very high level of expertise around the psychology of voice, maybe things that we don’t understand. We may have a basic level of understanding of how to use our voice. The fact that voices need to be heard but there’s a psychology around voice, not only the use of the voice but how to transform, bring about change and change the lives of our clients and the people around us. Let’s get into this. What is the Psychology of the Voice?

The Psychology of the Voice is the methodology that I teach and it’s based on the research that I’ve done over many years. It started when I was fascinated with dialects and I was curious about why does the Irish baby sounds Irish? I’m a Texan. Why do I sound Texan? What my research showed me is the subconscious is putting the voice, telling us how to hold our face, to create a dialect so we fit in. The sense of belonging. I can literally shift my face and become Irish. All I did was I shifted the placement. I thought, “There’s more to this story. There’s got to be.” I was fascinated with voice so I started watching the people that would come to work with me. They were quiet, spoke fast and didn’t have confidence. For whatever reason, I was always driven to ask questions like, “Do you have any siblings?” I always use one man as an example. He spoke very quietly. I asked him, “Do you have siblings?” He said, “I have six older sisters.” That was my body of research.

What I discovered was before we are five years old, literally one phrase like, “Nobody wants to hear what you have to say,” goes into the subconscious. The subconscious says, “Don’t worry. I’ve got this,” and starts to shut the voice down. The subconscious, the voice story, is calling the shots. The person that doesn’t say anything, I guarantee you there’s noise in their head that says, “Nobody wants to hear you.” The psychology of the voice is what is happening in our mind that is causing the bad voice habit that’s not ultimately serving us.

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The subconscious mind is dictating the voice and how you express yourself from your voice. What we want to do is get to the root of that. What’s causing the voice may be either to be way too big because there’s an ego thing going on or play very small and truly ineffective to express itself. I’m going to be vulnerable and put myself out there, which I always do. I have a commanding voice like my voice is deep and a major part of me is football, aggression, rah and go hard. I come across that way to people at times, at least I’ve been told. Some people say, “It’s a little bit too much. I can’t handle all of that.” I don’t want to do that because I want to be approachable. I want people to feel comfortable.

One of the things that I’ve done because I’m conscious of this is now I have this voice where I’ll not be as strong. I’ll come a little bit softer. It’s not truly me but I’m trying to make people feel comfortable. In the back of my mind I’m like, “Why do I do that? Why don’t I let my voice carry and let it go? It’s what it is.” That’s just thought that if I do that, somebody’s going to get offended. You’re not going to be approachable. You want to fit in, not be too scary or whatever.

We all deal with that to some degree. Let’s be honest. As human beings, we have these things that we deal with. One of the things I love about this show is that we get to talk about it. We get to bring that out. That’s what you described in action and the reality. I’m using myself as a guinea pig here. How do we change it, Tracy? What do we need to do to allow ourselves to not have that type of limitation on our expression?

There’s so much that you said that I’m smiling from ear to ear. I love everything that you said because it’s the core of what this is about. A lot of times, people think they’re revealing the best version of themselves and they are still hiding behind something. People will have what I call voice masks. You authentically have a beautiful, powerful voice. Somebody else might not but they might put that in place. It’s protection. What you’re doing without even realizing you did it is very powerful because the subconscious of the listener is processing every single sound you make. You’ve got this powerful, commanding voice and that’s beautiful and wonderful but there are a few things in there. There is a quiet side to you because there are all shades to all of us.

That may not feel like you but there is a bit of you that has that. We don’t want to change who you are but I want you to play all the shades because that quiet bit tells the listener subconscious you care about them. What you now do is reach a broader audience because everybody has a voice aversion. Some people loud, some people quiet or some people slow. If you stay on that one note, we can lose part of the audience. What you’re doing is you’re reaching more people. You’re creating a journey. You’re revealing all the shades of you so that we get a richer, deeper experience. Maybe it doesn’t quite feel like you but that’s where I would say, “Let’s go back into your mind.” Is that ultimately true that there is no softer side of you? We all have a dominant side, like I’m intense and that’s okay. I don’t want to change that. What are the other shades of Tracy?

There’s something to be said about playing all sides because there may be sides that you’re comfortable and another side you’re not so comfortable with so you don’t play them that well because you’re not comfortable playing them. I found that when you can nurture those things, develop them then you can begin to reap the fruit and the result of playing that game, side and shade of you. I’ve learned being in the speaker business that there’s this thing called variance. With your voice, you want to have a lot of variances.

GCM 209 | Psychology Of The Voice

Psychology Of The Voice: We’ve got to let go of the noise in our head that’s saying, “They’re going to judge you if you let them know you were sad or let them know you were frustrated.” They’re going to judge anyway.


I’ve learned this skill so when I’m on the show or I’m speaking, I’m pretty good at taking my voice from different levels of excitement and then bringing it back down to very calm and soothing. You have to play all because it makes for a more interesting conversation. When you’re monotone, you stay at one level, that gets boring real fast. People can get so used to that tone that there’s nothing that excites them. They know what’s coming but when you can add a little flavor to the conversation, it’s like the pop on your tongue. There’s a zing in the ingredients or in a meal that you’re having. That’s what makes it interesting.

You’re spot on creating that unpredictability because every seven seconds, our brain tells us to check out. That’s not a lot of time and if we do everything the same like you were saying, we’ve created predictability. I know what you’re going to do. I know you. When I don’t know where you’re going to go next, that’s when I want to stay with you.

The subconscious mind hinders that variance. It hinders that communication and expression. Putting myself on here, I found that when I became a speaker that there’s a lot of things that I had to deal with personally. I wanted to be a speaker. For those of you that are reading that want to become speakers, as you continue on this speaker journey, what I’m finding is the more you self-develop, deal with those things and allow yourself to be free and express yourself even more, that’s what people are looking for. It’s dealing with those issues and being authentic. There’s a connection between your subconscious mind and authenticity. I will tell you that for sure.

A lot of times, we’re putting on that mask because we can’t be authentic with our audience. We can’t be authentic with the world that we are in because we don’t want to show certain things. It hinders your reach to your audience because we’ve seen all the gimmicks. We’re aware there’s a lot of gimmicks and scams. We can snuff that out but if you really want to be effective and touch people and connect with people, you have to bring that level of authenticity. Here’s the thing that I’ve learned. They’re dealing with stuff too. They’re afraid and hiding just like you are. They are looking for someone to say, “It’s okay to come out and I’ve dealt with that, too. I’m feeling that and have that emotion, too. I don’t know what to do either. I’m scared as well. Is it okay to come out?” When you can stand and say, “I’m with you,” and speak in that language and connect with them on that level, it’s a very powerful thing and as leaders, that’s our privilege and responsibility to do so.

The thing is if I’m all getting things perfect and not revealing who I am and I talked to you about my tragedy, triumph, frustration or whatever, you don’t hear it in my voice so you can’t go, “Yes. She gets me.” That’s what I hear you saying. It’s critical for us to reveal the frustration in all the things because that’s what the audience is going to relate to. We’ve got to let go of the noise in our head that’s saying, “They’re going to judge you if you let them know you were sad or let them know you were frustrated.” We connect through the voice and at this point, in the world, that’s more critical than ever. We have been sequestered. They’re going to judge anyway.

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Who cares? That’s a human thing. We have to get beyond that. I’ve found that being up on stage, it’s not about whether they’re going to judge or not. It’s the impact that you’re going to have on those people during that period of time that you are in front of them. That’s more important than anything. I did a talk with a ton of people and it was the most authentic that I have shown ever on stage. It put me in a place of so much vulnerability. It was almost overwhelming. To share, I had a talk that I had to prepare for and it was a struggle to prepare for this talk.

Typically, I’ll put slides together and I will go through my process of preparing for a talk. This one was different. The spiritual process that I was going through was different as it was one that it appeared that it didn’t want me to put together the slides. There was an urge for me to show up in the most vulnerable, authentic way. To be honest, if you got your slides, that’s like notes. You’re speaking from your notes. To go up on stage with no slides and just share, it was to open up myself to whatever and be me. No slides, nothing else other than me and to share. I did that.

I showed up in that way and then I found that when I was in the middle of the talk, I was looking for certain words to share with the audience and they weren’t coming fast enough. There were these pauses and then I was sharing my story. I got emotional about that. It slowed me down and it took me back. It got me distracted because I was sharing this story. I was reliving that experience and needed a couple of moments and because I needed those moments, it felt like I was out there on an island like, “Where do I go from here?”

The people were seeing me share and it’s seeing that emotion that I was experiencing real talk. That’s a very scary and vulnerable thing. Navigating that, real-time, in front of those people was a challenge and then there’s that expectation. This is Rodney Flowers. People were excited to hear me speak. Some hadn’t heard me speak before and they had heard about it but those were talks that I’ve done with slides, carefully and crafted talks. Now I felt led to show up differently and everyone wants to know, “How did it turn out, Rodney?”

It was a great and very powerful talk. The outcome was one that was moving and it was a demonstration more than a talk of what true authenticity is, being vulnerable and then how you manage that. I was able to be out there, stay out here and have them out there with me, like caring for and concerned about me and then bring them back to a place of safety of conflict. It’s okay. Here’s where we are. This is what you do and it was a demonstration of what you do when you’re in that place of uncertainty.

I didn’t plan for it to be that but that’s what it turned out to be. It was a true example of surrendering and allowing your true, authentic voice to come through for people. The people needed that. At least that was the feedback that I got. It was a little uncomfortable and unnerving for me. When you talk about serving and being that example for people and being in a place of service and being used by the universe and used by God, that’s what that experience was like.

That’s the end goal. We get out of the outcome and the past. “I’m in control of this and I’m going to get everything right.” We get in the now like a conversation.

It’s trusting the voice. I think a lot of times, we get choked up here because here, we got it. We know there are things and I’m drawing a circle around my stomach here because deep down inside of us, we have things we want to say and express. Between here in our stomach and what comes out of the mouth, we’re not sure that what is here is going to be articulated in a manner that people don’t understand or even if it is, it’s going to be misconstrued, not understood or taken the wrong way. We talk about the Psychology of the Voice. How do we position ourselves? What do we need to do to ensure that that transition from here, our hearts, our emotions and what transpires or transcends out of the mouth is what we truly want to express?

There are a couple of things. One, it goes back to being in the now. The subconscious wants to keep you small and safe. The subconscious goal is to protect your heart. The voice is the orchestra of the heart. If the subconscious can get you focused on what they might think, what they might do and remember that time. It can be anywhere but in the now. You’re going to limit yourself. There’s no voice power except in the now. A big part of it is getting in the now and not worrying about the outcome, not being in the outcome, not deciding what we’re thinking. You don’t know what we’re thinking unless you ask us what we’re thinking at the end of the day. This is what I see a lot of people get in trouble with. They get so focused on getting the words right and we need to start working from the place of trusting we have the right words. If we speak from the message, which is I need these people to know blank, the most perfect words will be there. I bet without the slide deck, the most perfect words were there.

They were. Another example is this show. I speak authentically. The goal of the show is to get on and be politically correct with everything that I say and make sure that every word that I speak is enunciated properly. I didn’t go to an Ivy League school. I grew up in Raeford, North Carolina, a very small town. I grew up chasing chickens and gathering eggs. My grandma had pigs. I had to go out there and feed the pigs twice a day. My grandma didn’t have a lot of money. We grew up with a field. We grew our own food. We had to go out there and gather that food. All of the things, we’re living in a country and not so financially stable life.

GCM 209 | Psychology Of The Voice

Psychology Of The Voice: A big part of it is getting in the now and not worrying about the outcome, not being in the outcome, not deciding what other people thinking.


I had a solid education. I went to public school and I graduated high school. I have an MBA. I’m very educated. I’m not the most well-spoken person on the planet nor am I trying to be. What I am is an example of what’s possible so I know that about myself and that’s more important. I’ve heard people that speak politically correct about everything, they enunciate everything and they take a lot of pride in that but they have no impact on people. They can’t show people how to get from point A to point B. They can’t show or give people hope, inspire or help people understand that challenge that they’re going through. They can get through that. They have it in them to get through that.

I don’t care whether you have an Ivy League degree or whether you have a degree altogether. That’s what we need. That’s what is effective in life now. If you can get that across to people then you’ve done a good job. That’s the most important thing. At times and correct me if I’m wrong, when you’re so politically correct, you lose people because, if you did the study, most people are not graduates. I read somewhere that the average person has a ninth-grade education when you average it all up or maybe it’s something different. I wish I had that so I can speak intelligently about that.

When you speak to the masses, that’s a small population of people that live by that standard, if you will. Is it great to speak that way? Yes, it’s cool. I can clearly understand you. You can pronounce every word that you speak properly but I’m saying it’s not the most effective. I’m after effectivity, the ability to penetrate your heart, the ability to inspire you, to get you to move and to help you see that you don’t have to have all of that to move. Society has painted a picture.

A lot of people will not even step out and attempt to do a thing because they feel, “I’m not.” I was talking about this on a different show. Hollywood painted the picture. TV, society and social media like when you look at social media, you see all these people. It’s all perfect and they have these beautiful lives. A person that doesn’t have that as their reality but wants to experience something great and has something to offer, they feel like they can’t make that move. Why? It’s because I’m not this and that and I don’t want to present that. I want to show you that you can get on a podcast and speak like Rodney. It’s not perfect but it’s good enough and still have an effect on people. That’s what I’m after.

What I hear in that is the difference. There are a couple of differences but what you’re saying and this is the piece that people oftentimes have never even thought to think about, what do you want me to feel? That’s what I hear you saying. Words can’t make me feel. Science has proven that. How you say those words have the power to make me feel. You can be the most articulate and get the words perfect but if you are not letting me in, if there is a voice barrier there, I cannot connect with you. Your perfect words won’t even affect me. When you can make me feel something, that is when you’ve got the power to change your life.

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Here’s what I have to say about that. There’s no class on that.

That breaks my heart a little bit because it’s so important. That’s how we relate. You make me feel your pain, joy, grief, sadness or whatever. I can line up my pain with that and I’m like, “Rodney gets me,” when I’m sitting here feeling like nobody gets me and then you come in with that and I’m like, “Somebody gets me.”

That’s what we all want, to feel accepted and heard, which is why we have this show in the first place is we’re talking about voice. We talk about how the subconscious makes you feel small. That has a lot to do with what you’re taking in and what’s presented out there in society. That is such a significant thing. I want everyone who is reading this to imagine this for a second. Martin Luther King, that’s a powerful voice. What if that voice wasn’t heard? Think about that for a second. There are some other voices out there. What if those voices weren’t heard? What would life look like now if those voices weren’t heard? How does that relate to you? You don’t know the impact of your voice. If you’re not being heard, there could be someone who is suffering because you are not being heard or you’re not expressing your voice.

Those are the things that I hear on a daily basis. “I’m bothering people. They don’t want to hear what I have to say.” It all goes back to that one phrase that you heard from a college professor, boss, a relationship, a parent or a sibling that said, “You talk all the time. Nobody wants to hear that.” You locked into it and now it’s time to let it go because that’s calling the shots on you using your voice. I say that all the time. There is somebody out there desperately waiting to hear your message. You’re their person.

Another reason why I started this show, I’ve had an admiral say, “You’ll never be rich.” I’ve had someone say, “You don’t speak well enough to X, Y and Z. You have a speech problem.” You know the story about walking again. Someone told me I’d never walk. What I’m saying is these were opportunities for me to take that on and make that a part of my identity. When you make it a part of your identity, it’s something that you believe about yourself and when you believe it about yourself, beliefs lead to behaviors. Now that you believe this, it affects the way you speak. It affects the way you interact and communicate with people. It’s that subconscious. I could still believe that. There’s no way I could believe that now. Definitely not what they said. We could take that on and we take ownership of someone else’s opinion. I think Les Brown said it best. Someone else’s opinion of you does not have to be your reality. Why are we taking those phrases and those things on?

A lot of it is habit and they don’t have a class on that. It’s mind-bending sometimes for people when I say, “Is that true?” “Nobody wants to hear what I have to say. I am this and that.” Hold on a minute. Let’s stop and question that. Is that ultimately true that nobody wants to hear your voice? No, that’s not ultimately true. We can choose to continue to buy into that story or we can go, “Is there another choice?”

Is there another belief? I love having another belief especially with that one. “Nobody wants to hear what I have to say.” If you can identify a group of people that definitely needs to hear what you have to say so now you can change that narrative to, “X, Y and Z need to hear what I have to say.” You have something that’s going to serve them. Now that doesn’t even affect you. It’s like water on a duck’s back. It rolls off like they said it would. You know better. That’s why it’s important. Identity and knowing who you are is a big thing. When someone says that about you because you know you then you know that what they’re saying doesn’t even affect you. “No one wants to hear you.” What? You don’t even have to come back to that when you know yourself because you know who needs to hear you. You know and have done that work. You’ve identified and done that.

The thing about it is we take these things on as the truth without putting work into the validity of these statements. At five years old, someone says stuff to you and that affected you emotionally and you’re still carrying that. As an adult, at some point in time, we have to become conscious enough to say, “How does this belief serve me? Let me go back. Let me do some research on this. Hold up.” Instead of holding it as the ground truth in your 20s on to 30s on to your 40s, there comes a time when you have to say, “Stop. Let me fact-check this.”

One of my mentors said the greatest thing one time. I thought about this when you were talking about judgment earlier and how judgment isn’t even about us. He looked at the group and he said, “Do you guys want to worry about judgment or do you want to serve your purpose? You can’t do both.” I thought that was so powerful. What people don’t maybe realize is that what we think they’re thinking, they’re not thinking it. I might be sitting here thinking, “These people don’t think I know anything.” These people might be sitting there going, “This is interesting.” I love what you said. We have to give the mind a memo that we’re not five anymore. Here’s the permission slip to move on from whatever statement it was that made you believe that nobody wanted to hear you because that’s not ultimately true.

I have a mantra about the privilege and the responsibility as a leader and professional to deal with those things. For some reason, we can’t let those things exist in our lives. For some reason, you don’t go back and you don’t address those things. To be a game-changer, in my opinion, to be the best player that you can be on the field. You got talent, you know how to run your route. There are a lot of things you know how to do right. You got clients. You’re making money. Yet, there’s still another level of improvement, progress, clearing, cleansing and free.

GCM 209 | Psychology Of The Voice

Psychology Of The Voice: Words can’t make people feel. Science has proven that. How you say those words has the power to make people feel.


That’s what we’re talking about. When you talk about the voice, this is good for me. It’s being unlimited. Your voice could be imprisoned. Even though it speaks and people hear you, they’re not hearing the full you. There’s still a wall and barrier around the voice. It’s like you have a pet and the pet is not on a leash that’s not right next to you and it gets to run outside. It doesn’t truly have freedom because there’s a fence around the house. There’s only so far that it is able to go because it’s still limited. When we are truly free and there’s no barrier then you get to fully express yourself. It feels good to express yourself up to the limitation that you have. Imagine what full expression would be. That speaks for me and for all of us because there’s always something there that has a tendency to want to hold us back or make us play small. That’s the thing we’re talking about here.

That’s what I call Pillar One, Psychology of the Voice. Where’s the inner freedom? If you’re locked up, worked up and not free-flowing, there’s no inner freedom in that. You’re exactly right. Many people think they are revealing it all but many people are not. What are the bits of you that make you? Are you revealing them? Do you snort-laugh? What are things that you do? Do you get frustrated? Do you get sarcastic? What are the bits of you? I want people to be free to reveal the best version of themselves and not be worried. Should I say it this way or should I say it that way? What are they going to think If I say it? What are they going to think if I reveal that real frustration? Whatever it is.

That revelation is what we need. I was on the show and I was talking about purpose. The guest said that the purpose of life is supporting happiness, joy, fulfillment and sustainment of life itself. That’s your purpose in as many ways that you can do that. Everyone has the ability or a different way of doing that. The ability to fully express yourself, your voice is so important. The way you do it or the way your voice is expressed. That’s what’s needed, your voice. We don’t need another MLK, Martin Luther King, we’ve had that long ago and it served its purpose.

Now, what do we need? We need what’s here, in existence and alive, what has something to say and wants to be expressed? That is you. I believe if you’re alive, you’re here for a reason. You have a mouth and you can speak. There’s something on your mind and whatever that thing that’s deep down inside that is attached and associated to your desire, that’s what we need. That part of it that comes out vocally, that’s what we need. The voices associated with the contribution, gift, level of service, everything that makes up you and the identity. We can go on and on.

Everything you is purposeful. Your voice is the way you express the thing that’s inside of you in a way that can be accepted and understood by others. That’s what we need. We need you. We shouldn’t be ashamed of who. We’re all different and we all are symbolic of a coin. There’s a top and a bottom to the coin. We have to be able to express both sides of ourselves. Why? It’s because everyone else has a top and a bottom. We can get rid of that judgment because, essentially, it cancels itself out.

I hear on the daily. I’ve got to get it right. Work from you already got it if you work from you. My vocal footprint is very different than yours. It’s different from this one or that one. Stop trying to be somebody else. Be you.

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That’s what makes it beautiful. I can’t be a copycat. Why be a copy of somebody else? That’s not what they were supposed to. They’re an example. That’s their service. That’s what they were supposed to do is be an example, not for you to go, “They’ve done this so let me go do it like them.” Don’t copy it. No, it’s not there for you to copy. It’s there to be like a blueprint that, “Here are some strategies and tools. Here’s an example of that.” It is possible. If you can’t get that belief in you that it was possible for them so it’s possible for you. It can be obtained, expressed and done. Now, go do it in your own unique way. That’s what this is. That’s the service that I’m bringing. My mission is to be an example of what’s possible. I don’t want people to do it like me. Don’t try to copy me. Do it better and different than me. Do it your way but know that it can be done.

It all goes back to that Psychology of the Voice story. What are the drivers in your head saying? “They got it right. I better copy that so I get it right.” I want you to look at why you think you aren’t going to get it right because if you do you, you are going to get it right.

Why do you think we put these false, sophisticated, complicated requirements of getting it right on ourselves? I feel like some of these beliefs are self-imposed beliefs based on society. I don’t know what it is. There was another reason why I got started in this work because I realized that people will look at celebrities, people that are very successful and those one-percenters and they would say, “These guys are great. They’re amazing.” When it comes to being able to be an expression that’s equivalent to what they are looking at, seeing, upholding and praising, they don’t feel that they can do it. That’s what stops them. It’s not the lack of money, education or anything other than the fact that it’s possible for them but not possible for me.

When you start out on something, you have to know that it’s possible for you. If you don’t believe it’s possible for you, it doesn’t matter. The money and education, none of that matters. This is something I want to hit on because realizing that it was possible to walk again, even when the doctor said that it was not possible, there was something in me that said, “There is a way.” Even if it was the only way was some type of spiritual miracle then that’s what I was going to bet on and because I bet on that and I felt it was possible. That thought and belief drove me to action and dictated my vision. When you can get to the point that you think it’s possible, that’s the most powerful, moving thing ever. It’s realizing that it’s possible. Let’s try, set the sail, move out, write the business plan, go work out, work, eat healthily, make the necessary connections, network, work on it some more and try because it’s possible.

That requires getting okay with being comfortable in the uncomfortable like the presentation you were talking about and you were so authentic. That didn’t feel good so that must be bad. I tell people that’s the litmus test. If that pause feels really uncomfortable then we’re probably loving it because the subconscious wants to keep you safe. It all goes back to safety. We have to work from the place of, “I am safe. It is safe to reveal who I am. It is possible.” It may not be 100% comfortable to write the business plan or do whatever, all those things you were mentioning but that doesn’t mean it’s bad, wrong or a failure. It means it’s something new and different.

Tracy, how can people connect with you if they wanted to learn more about you?

The best place to find me for everything is over on the website, CaptivateTheRoom.com. That’s where I am on all the social media.

That’s an interesting, intriguing website. I like it, very to the point. Tracy, thank you for coming on the show. It’s been a wonderful, rich conversation about the voice and about using the voice. For the audience, at least for me, I walked into this conversation thinking he was going to talk about vocal cords and how to use your tone to captivate a room if you will. I want the audience to read this. I’ve been on this journey now for a long time for many years and what I’m finding is everything is pointing back. If there’s a common thread and success in this business, it’s dealing with your issues, thoughts and beliefs about yourself. It’s dealing with you. It’s not money, education and network. Those things play their role but the heart of it all is dealing with yourself.

You’ve shared that cliché statement or phrase, “You are your worst enemy, worst critic, competition.” If you can defeat yourself, if you can win, if you can overcome you, that’s the championship status, you are at the top of the game. You are winning because it is you that’s holding you back and telling you those stories. People can say certain things. It’s not what they say. It’s the taking of what they say and they’re replanted to yourself. That’s what gets you. If you can overcome that, every day is a success. You win day to day.

GCM 209 | Psychology Of The Voice

Psychology Of The Voice: Each vocal footprint is very different than yours. It’s very different from this one or that one. Stop trying to be somebody else. Be you.


That’s it. I can tell you to speak louder all day long but until you internally deal with why you can’t speak louder or why you’re afraid to speak louder, we’ve missed the mark.

Tracy, as we wrap up the show, I want to ask you if you can offer one thing that will help us dominate our challenges, bounce back from adversity and continuously win at the game of life. What would that be?

Stop deciding what we’re thinking. Work from the place of, “I need these people to know my message matters. I have something to share and absolutely stop deciding what we’re thinking.”

Thank you for that, Tracy. I took a class a little while ago and they called that already always thinking. You already know what the audience is thinking because they always this and always that. That’s the type of thinking that you hold for yourself. That type of thinking will get you in trouble.

Thank you so much for having me. I loved this conversation.

There you have it, another successful episode of the show. This was a rich conversation. We all have a voice and we all need to be heard. One thing that for sure is that a lot of people want to be heard. They should be heard. Here’s what I want you to consider. Are you ready to be heard? If you want to express your voice, you have the privilege and the responsibility to ensure that you are bringing it with no filter, nothing holding you back and that you’re not speaking in a manner that is not your true and authentic self.

There is somebody out there desperately waiting to hear your message. You’re their person. Share on X

That’s a challenge because when we set out to be authentic, we have to deal with ourselves. We have to deal with ourselves and then we have to be real with ourselves. Being real with ourselves requires us to look truly in ourselves, all of our perfections and imperfections and deal with them. When we deal with them then we can speak from a place of truth and freedom. When you speak from a place of truth and freedom, you don’t even care if you’re judged. When people judge, we care if they’re right. They may not know they’re right but we know they’re right and that affects us. When you know that even if they’re judging you and it isn’t true and it’s them then there is a sense of power. I’m going to let you guys sit with that. Until next time. Peace and love.

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About Tracy Goodwin

Tracy Goodwin, has taught thousands of celebrities, professionals, and entrepreneurs, how to transform their lives and the lives of their listeners with their voice by stepping into the power of their natural voice so they amplify their authority and captivate the room.

Tracy’s unique approach, Psychology of the Voice, gets to the core of limiting voice habits and creates and transforms voices from the inside out. People all over the world seek her out for her expertise to free voice barriers and get them to the next level in their business and life.

Her game-changing voice training teaches you how to captivate the room, no matter the message, the venue, or the size of the audience.